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Why Manitoba will remain a welfare province.

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usedtoliveinstb


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St Norberter wrote:
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Goth_chic wrote:If the Tories had a majority I bet things would be alot different.

LMAO! Wait you're not serious are you? Dude, they are going to destroy the finances and then the Liberals will have to clean everyting up by cutting everything all 90s again and we'll end up with shittier healthcare and worse roads than ever.

Wait!

You're not actually saying that Governments govern the same regardless of a majority or a minority are you? You can't possibly be that naiive and uninformed!

Are you so naive and uninformed that you trust the Tories not to do what they have historically done over and over again? Do you think that suddenly when they get a majority they will learn how to manage the books? Why don't you ask Ontarians what a great state Flaherty left Ontario in... Or you could just bury your head in the sand and shoot some guns that no longer must be registered.

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Yes they all change their stripes when they get the power too .

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Pavolo wrote:Yes they all change their stripes when they get the power too .

Like the NDP who governs like good old fence sitting Liberals.

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usedtoliveinstb wrote:
St Norberter wrote:
usedtoliveinstb wrote:
Goth_chic wrote:If the Tories had a majority I bet things would be alot different.

LMAO! Wait you're not serious are you? Dude, they are going to destroy the finances and then the Liberals will have to clean everyting up by cutting everything all 90s again and we'll end up with shittier healthcare and worse roads than ever.

Wait!

You're not actually saying that Governments govern the same regardless of a majority or a minority are you? You can't possibly be that naiive and uninformed!

Are you so naive and uninformed that you trust the Tories not to do what they have historically done over and over again? Do you think that suddenly when they get a majority they will learn how to manage the books? Why don't you ask Ontarians what a great state Flaherty left Ontario in... Or you could just bury your head in the sand and shoot some guns that no longer must be registered.

Governments govern differently in minority than majority governments. It's proven fact.

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Cept they hire more people to hold the fence up

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St Norberter wrote:Governments govern differently in minority than majority governments. It's proven fact.

Conservative minorities run deficits, it's a proven fact. Conservative majorities run deficits, it's a proven fact.

Thus, it's a proven fact that majorities govern exactly as do minorities.

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usedtoliveinstb wrote:
St Norberter wrote:Governments govern differently in minority than majority governments. It's proven fact.

Conservative minorities run deficits, it's a proven fact. Conservative majorities run deficits, it's a proven fact.

Thus, it's a proven fact that majorities govern exactly as do minorities.


Follow your logic further:

All governments ( Conservatie/Liberal/NDP) run deficits. Therefore expect deficits for every budget. Don't expect any government to balance the budget.

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Follow your logic further:

All governments ( Conservatie/Liberal/NDP) run deficits. Therefore expect deficits for every budget. Don't expect any government to balance the budget.[/quote]

Except for the Manitoba NDP and Federal Liberals who have run in the black for ummm the last decade or so?

EDIT: Sorry I forgot to state that it was a fact. Because clearly stating it's a proven fact legitimizes the statement!

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Don't be an ass usedtoliveinstb. Be a liberal partisan till the cows come home but drop the condescending and juvenile commentary.


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I see you ignored this post usedtoliveinstb. Care to respond?

grumpy old man wrote:This is a no-win proposition for any government. If they don't provide the funding they're damned and if they do they're damned. And if they spend it too fast they're reckless and not fast enough they're careless.

And now this... They are running up a deficit. Tell me usedtoliveinstb, how would you have handled things in these circumstances?


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grumpy old man wrote:I see you ignored this post usedtoliveinstb. Care to respond?

grumpy old man wrote:This is a no-win proposition for any government. If they don't provide the funding they're damned and if they do they're damned. And if they spend it too fast they're reckless and not fast enough they're careless.

And now this... They are running up a deficit. Tell me usedtoliveinstb, how would you have handled things in these circumstances?

The same way you would have.

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That's a cop out. You've been making snide comments for a couple days now. Tell us how you would have managed this recession and the stimulus initiative.

Or at the very least acknowledge the fact this government is ruling in extraordinary times.


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usedtoliveinstb wrote:Follow your logic further:

All governments ( Conservatie/Liberal/NDP) run deficits. Therefore expect deficits for every budget. Don't expect any government to balance the budget

Except for the Manitoba NDP and Federal Liberals who have run in the black for ummm the last decade or so?

EDIT: Sorry I forgot to state that it was a fact. Because clearly stating it's a proven fact legitimizes the statement!

You must be trolling, because if you are not you are truly an idiot. However, I'll indulge one last time:
Really? Seriously? Do you alter facts just so they suit your agument?
Bob Rae was an NDP premier, so was Ujall dosanjh
David Peterson was a Liberal Premier. Trudeau was a Liberal PM.
Of course in your fantasy world only Conservatives run deficits and Liberals are the saviours of this country.

Give it a f'n break.



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89 Re: Why Manitoba will remain a welfare province. on Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:42 pm

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Brian Mulroney was the 2nd greatest Prime Minister we ever had, I read that in his book! He brought in the GST and Free Trade , 2 of the best things to ever happen in Canada.
What he did not do, was control spending and turned a deficit in his final year of $45 Billion dollars. Chretian took about 3 years of cutting spending to eliminate the deficit. Paul martin was the one in charge of Finance and he did a great job. There have been surpluses for 10 years, and Harper presented a balanced budget, and the opposition Liberals said they would vote Harper's Conservatives out of office, if they did not bring in a stimulous budget to provide funding for the Liberal Adscam felons who were being released from the penitentiary.
We have a $55 Billion dollar deficit, party because revenues have dropped $14 Billion per month because of the recession and partly because of funding for wasteful projects like the Human Rights Museum.


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90 Re: Why Manitoba will remain a welfare province. on Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:28 pm

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"Except for the Manitoba NDP and Federal Liberals who have run in the black for ummm the last decade or so?"
the reality of it is, if ANY of the parties were in power during the times of WORLD WIDE FANTASTIC FINANCIAL SUCCESS they would have run in the black, the only real difference would have been how much in the black


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91 Re: Why Manitoba will remain a welfare province. on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:10 am

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The NDP has never run in the black. They steal money from crown corps to "balance" the budget.

92 Re: Why Manitoba will remain a welfare province. on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:14 am

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Riverman wrote:The NDP has never run in the black. They steal money from crown corps to "balance" the budget.

NDP + Surplus = Oxymoron

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If not for MASSIVE federal transfer payments the NDP would have been in deep do do... Balanced budgets my a$$.


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Ignore the trolls.

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grumpy old man wrote:If not for MASSIVE federal transfer payments the NDP would have been in deep do do... Balanced budgets my a$$.

yeah MASSIVE transfer payments which were made possible by a FANTASTIC WORLD ECONOMY which no matter whom was in power the transfer payments would have still happened. onyl difference would have been how much and to what projects.


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