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26 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:59 am

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No they beat him up for false imprisonment.
How is he going to call the police? You know for a fact he has a cell phone?

27 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:20 am

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Actually...the $.20 is irrelevant...the dollar amount is irrelevant at all.

Whether it was $.20 or $2M...the hockey player & his brother should not have attacked the cabbie...unless the cabbie threatened or attacked them first (locking them in the car is 1) impossible and 2) not threatening)

What they SHOULD have done...is made the cabbie call his dispatcher. The cabbie DOES have either a cell phone or a radio to reach dispatch. Once reached...he should've demanded arrangements be made to have the cabbie fired. Guaranteed the cabbie would find change...somewhere.

The assault is unwaranted, and the hockey kid should be charged. But the cabbie is at fault too (not as severe)...and Kane has grounds to have him charged with theft & false imprisonment (if those were the circumstances).

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28 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:23 am

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How is locking them in the car impossible?
Its rather easy to modify a vehicle to make it damn near impossible to get out.


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29 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:25 am

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With the 'child proof' rear doors that are becoming so common now, it's real easy to lock someone inside.

30 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:29 am

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JTF wrote:With the 'child proof' rear doors that are becoming so common now, it's real easy to lock someone inside.

Yeah, I can see a hockey player having trouble with child proof doors. Very Happy

31 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:29 am

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It's a car people...if I honestly felt someone was trying to lock me in a car...I would easily turn and kick out a window.

Did you know car manufacturers design windshields and rear windows to "pop" out? So if you kick them just right...they should come out.

And this guy is a hockey player...he could probably have done it with his head.

Not to mention the fact that (child lock or no), there's probably still a stem to pull up to unlock the door. If you can grab that...and unlock it...the door will open.

Being locked in the backseat of a car is not really "imprisonment"...it's more like temporary annoyance.

Now see...THAT'S what he should have done though...kicked out a window instead of attacking the cabbie. That comes out of the cabbie's pocket for repairs...and Kane could've charged him with robbery if the cabbie tried to sue him.

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32 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:30 am

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ever been in the backseat of a police car?


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33 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:33 am

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Deank wrote:ever been in the backseat of a police car?

Can't say I have, but please, tell us about it!

34 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:34 am

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Yes I have...and they are DESIGNED to not be "escapable"...they also cost thousands of dollars more to make than a "standard" vehicle.

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35 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:38 am

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And a lot of cabs are old police vehicles.


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36 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:38 am

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ummm...yeah...not anymore Wink

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37 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:38 am

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Freeman wrote:
Deank wrote:ever been in the backseat of a police car?

Can't say I have, but please, tell us about it!

I needed a ride home after spinning my brother in laws camaro into the ditch in the middle of winter.


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38 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:46 am

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AGEsAces wrote:Yes I have...and they are DESIGNED to not be "escapable"...they also cost thousands of dollars more to make than a "standard" vehicle.

Sorry you misunderstood, I was more interested in the story rather than the technical aspects of the cars. Smile

39 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:16 am

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Deank wrote:No they beat him up for false imprisonment.
How is he going to call the police? You know for a fact he has a cell phone?
Why would he need a cell phone?


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40 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:20 am

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I've seen several episodes of COPS where the handcuffed dude broke the window rather easily. But we are all leaping to the conclusion this cab was designed as escape-proof. I wonder if that would even be illegal. Imagine being trapped in the backseat of a cab that was in an accident and you can't get out...


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41 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:22 am

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grumpy old man wrote:
Deank wrote:No they beat him up for false imprisonment.
How is he going to call the police? You know for a fact he has a cell phone?
Why would he need a cell phone?

how else is he going to call police from inside a locked vehicle, bat-signal? Or is this one of those super luxury cabs that has built in phones for the patrons?


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42 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:23 am

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grumpy old man wrote:I've seen several episodes of COPS where the handcuffed dude broke the window rather easily. But we are all leaping to the conclusion this cab was designed as escape-proof. I wonder if that would even be illegal. Imagine being trapped in the backseat of a cab that was in an accident and you can't get out...

of course it would be illegal.. does not mean for one moment that a cab driver would not do it. He already attemted to rob the player and possibly held him against his will... whats to say he wont go a little further and place all occupants at risk in an accident?


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43 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:28 am

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Deank wrote:
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Deank wrote:No they beat him up for false imprisonment.
How is he going to call the police? You know for a fact he has a cell phone?
Why would he need a cell phone?

how else is he going to call police from inside a locked vehicle, bat-signal? Or is this one of those super luxury cabs that has built in phones for the patrons?
Why would he have to call from the car. Hand over the twenty cents he was being robbed of, get released, then phone the police from a pay phone.

Oooo, I think I know what Kane was afraid of. Duh.

Kane was a kidnapping victim and likely believed that if he handed over the twenty cent ransom that he would be killed because kidnappers always kill their victims. No witnesses.


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44 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:32 am

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lol!

45 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:32 am

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" Hand over the twenty cents he was being robbed of, get released, then phone the police from a pay phone."

and be charged for abusing 911 like the lady who called 911 because McDonalds refused to refund her money?


I really dont get it GOM, you are saying its perfectly reasonable for anyone to hold anyone hostage for money and they should pay that money and then complain to the police, instead of trying to resolve the problem on their own when they know they can best their captor.


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46 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:39 am

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Deank wrote:" Hand over the twenty cents he was being robbed of, get released, then phone the police from a pay phone."

and be charged for abusing 911 like the lady who called 911 because McDonalds refused to refund her money?


I really dont get it GOM, you are saying its perfectly reasonable for anyone to hold anyone hostage for money and they should pay that money and then complain to the police, instead of trying to resolve the problem on their own when they know they can best their captor.
I did not say it was reasonable to hold anyone hostage.

Here is what I'm saying: DON'T BEAT ANYONE UP FOR TWENTY CENTS! Frick principle. Dude was a complete icehole.

What I don't get is why you are so insistent on making this such a heinous crime by the cabbie.

TWENTY CENTS!!!


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47 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:43 am

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The cabbie attempted to hold them illegally. Regardless of his reason that is a pretty damn heinous crime.


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48 Re: Young gun in trouble on Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:02 pm

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Twenty cents that will cost millions in the long run in terms of possible censure and loss of future endorsement opportunities.....stupid, plain macho stupidity.

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49 Re: Young gun in trouble on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:56 am

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Yep you hit it on the head , this boy ur boys were stupid .

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