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1 Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:36 pm

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Speaking for the Prime Minister

Gerry Nicholls:
I have written (free of charge) a speech for Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
It's a speech he will never deliver, but it sure would make Canada's political scene a lot more interesting if he did.
But don't take my word for it, judge for yourself. Here's the text:
My fellow Canadians,
Starting today you are going to see a dramatic change in me and my
party. That's because from now on, I am going to start acting and
talking like the real Stephen Harper.
No longer will I listen to those advisers, pollsters and spin
doctors who for the past five years have convinced me to act like a
sweater-vest wearing, big spending, quasi-Liberal.
That's not me.
In fact, I am every Red Tory's worst nightmare: I am a dyed-in-the-wool, honest-to-goodness, small "c" conservative.
That means I believe government should be a lot smaller, that free
enterprise is superior to socialism and that the only good thing about
the CBC is Don Cherry.
I also believe government must live within its means. Simply put,
deficit spending is wrong; today's deficits are tomorrow's taxes.
So to help eliminate the deficit, which admittedly my own government
wrongly created, I am going to cancel many of the spending projects
previously announced as part of my so-called "stimulus package."
Let's face it, the only thing government spending stimulates is more government.
Rather than increasing spending, I am going to do something I have
wanted to do ever since I became prime minister, which is move the
capital of Canada to Calgary.
Ha, ha, just kidding.
What I really want to do is cut spending. Under my government there
will be no more corporate bailouts; no more handouts to special
interest groups; no more pork-barrelling and no more regional
subsidies.
Deep tax cuts
Plus I want to make deep tax cuts. I would rather Canadians keep and
spend their own money rather than hand it over to bureaucrats who will
use it to subsidize things like balloon festivals in Quebec.
And speaking of Quebec, I now realize how much time, energy and
money I wasted trying to win seats in that province by pandering to
nationalists voters.
That's going to stop.
I will now treat all citizens and all provinces equally. There are
no "nations" within Canada, there are no special groups with special
rights, there are just Canadians.
Now I fully understand the Opposition will resist my new conservative agenda and force an election.
But that's OK. I welcome the chance to offer Canadian voters
something they have not had for a long time: A true political choice.
In the next election, voters will have an opportunity to support the
Liberals, who stand for big government, or the NDP, who stand for even
bigger government, or the Bloc Quebecois, who want to run a foreign
government.
Or they can support my party which wants to get government out of people's lives.
That's an election I can win.
Thank you and God bless Canada.
Pretty good speech I've written, eh?

I wish Harper would deliver this speech in Parliament this week. For me Debt is BAD. I don't care who says some debt is good, that is an outright lie. ALL Debt is BAD. Stimulus spending in Canada is BS, we donèt need it. It is Corporate Welfare, and if it were not for all the debt we as citizens have and the debt of our country, we would be sitting back and saying to USA and others "SUCKS TO BE YOU".

Anyone have any thoughts, other than the canned response socialists and communists give out?


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2 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:39 pm

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Harper can NOT deliver that speech as it is impossible to have deep tax cuts when we have so much debt to pay off.
We need to pay off our debt as fast as we can so that its only our grandchildren helping to pay it off instead of our great great great great great grandchildren.


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3 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:42 pm

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The government can reduce it size, trim 40 - 50 years of FAT. Reduce spending.

Use the GST for what is was supposed to be used for (DEBT REDUCTION) not to balance the books so that 13 years of Liberals can look like they did good.


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4 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:54 pm

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For the life of me I still cannot comprehend the ignorance of some Canadians....they credit Chretein/Martin for "fixing the deficit" while all they did was off-load the problems onto the provinces...something were still fighting with Ottawa about.

5 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:14 pm

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JTF wrote:For the life of me I still cannot comprehend the ignorance of some Canadians....they credit Chretein/Martin for "fixing the deficit" while all they did was off-load the problems onto the provinces...something were still fighting with Ottawa about.

They did more than offload, They also used the GST to make it look like they were balancing their budgets, they used the EI surplus to help pay down some debt. Durring all this time the government of Chretein also followed the doctrin of Trudeau and continued the socialization and liberalization of some of the institutions that made Canada, Canada.

Thanks to liberalism, we now live in a country that will not build a monument in rememberance of the 100+ million people who died at the hands of Communist Governments. We wont build a monument because it might offend some Canadian Communists. WTF (There was a segment about this on Charles Adler today). I guess we should not build the Canadian human rights monument incase we offend the same communists or offend nazis in some way. ( Not that I want the Human rights museum in the first place(bottomless money pit)).

In NewBrunswick, there are schools that wont play the CANADIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM because it is apparently against someone's religion. Is that the Country that our forefathers saw when they toiled as they built and fought for Canada? Is this the Canada that millions of people immigrated to to get a better life?

NO it is not.


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6 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:02 pm

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What monument is that?

7 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:07 pm

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The reason I ask is because Adler plays a character on the radio who fakes misunderstanding of stories so that they can be spun in a funny way.

8 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:23 pm

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Ahh, found the monument. "Memorial to the Victims of Totalitarian Communism" Interesting name choice. Guess if the monument is exclusive to totalitarian communism and not other forms of totalitarianism it makes sense. I guess also the political system isn't necessarily as much of a problem as the people running the system (sort of like saying victims of persecution in Iran are 'victims of democracy', doesn't really make sense). But totalitarian communism does have a pretty poor track record so maybe it's a fitting name. I can see a number of potential issues with it, none if which have anything to do with offending communists. But that's a typical Adler argument. Well, not a real argument, but it gets CJOB folks riled up over something that isn't the actual issue. Again, it's just his character misrepresenting things for entertainment. But whatever works for them I guess.

9 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:27 pm

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umcrouc0 wrote:Ahh, found the monument. "Memorial to the Victims of Totalitarian Communism" Interesting name choice. Guess if the monument is exclusive to totalitarian communism and not other forms of totalitarianism it makes sense. I guess also the political system isn't necessarily as much of a problem as the people running the system (sort of like saying victims of persecution in Iran are 'victims of democracy', doesn't really make sense). But totalitarian communism does have a pretty poor track record so maybe it's a fitting name. I can see a number of potential issues with it, none if which have anything to do with offending communists. But that's a typical Adler argument. Well, not a real argument, but it gets CJOB folks riled up over something that isn't the actual issue. Again, it's just his character misrepresenting things for entertainment. But whatever works for them I guess.

Well its got me worked up. Because the more I think of it the more pissed off I get at the direction Canada is headed in.


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10 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:30 pm

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If that was the actual reason behind the problem with the name I could see some people getting mad about it. But I don't know if it really is. Could be, but I've heard Adler say a lot of things are done for a reason that will get people worked up, when they are really done because of something completely unrelated to what he's talking about.
But in some cases he's correct, possible this is one of them.

11 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:38 pm

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umcrouc0 wrote:If that was the actual reason behind the problem with the name I could see some people getting mad about it. But I don't know if it really is. Could be, but I've heard Adler say a lot of things are done for a reason that will get people worked up, when they are really done because of something completely unrelated to what he's talking about.
But in some cases he's correct, possible this is one of them.

They stared the show off using this subject as a jumping off point to get into a discussion about how it has become racist for Briton and Canada to teach the actual history of our nations.

It then pissed me off. because here we are building Asper's monument of human misery and yet we are afraid to build a monument to the lives lost due to atheistic communism (totalitarian communism), kind of hypocritical to not want to offend them but yet offend them anyhow with stuff in the Canadian Human Rights Museum.


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12 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:41 am

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If the reason for not giving the monument that name is to not offend a small group of people in Canada, I see your point. But I don't think that's actually what's going on and that Adler just said that was the reason behind it because it makes for better entertainment than going into a long discussion on the accuracy of the wording in relation to the scope of the monument. That would put listeners to sleep instead of getting them riled up and phoning in. Adler does stuff like this fairly often on his show. He takes something going on in the news that sounds bad and puts the blame on either some special interest group, or our liberal society, normally both. Oh, and socialists and political correctness need to be thrown into the mix somewhere. But is that actually the reason behind it, or is that just what he said the reason was because that's what he always says the reason is?

I'm with you that it would be stupid not to give the monument the appropriate name because it may offend someone. But I've found that when Adler says something is happening 'because' of ____. It's often not the actual reason behind it and it gets people worked up over an issue that isn't actually real. In this case, I don't know, but if it stemmed from his show I'd take it with a grain of salt. Or a pound of salt. Maybe a tonne.

What was the problem with teaching the actual history of our nations? That sounds like it would have been interesting to hear.

13 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:04 pm

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weird...I KNOW I posted that article a couple of weeks ago...can't find it now.

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14 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:35 pm

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Heard Adler talking about this again today. The issue is that they want to add the words 'and other oppressive regimes' to the end of the title and the people who are behind the monument want it to be exclusive to communism. Then he went off with some garbage about how it's all because they don't want to offend communists in Canada. The original title was the current proposed title without the word 'totalitarian' so it covered all communism.

15 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:45 pm

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umcrouc0 wrote:Heard Adler talking about this again today. The issue is that they want to add the words 'and other oppressive regimes' to the end of the title and the people who are behind the monument want it to be exclusive to communism. Then he went off with some garbage about how it's all because they don't want to offend communists in Canada. The original title was the current proposed title without the word 'totalitarian' so it covered all communism.

Yes. All communism is bad, like not all democracy's are good.


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16 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:12 pm

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communism isn't bad...communism (pure communism) is impossible...that doesn't make it bad...just unachievable.

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17 Re: Speaking for the Prime Minister on Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:24 pm

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Not talking about theoretical communism. I'm talking about the communism that China is and the Soviet Bloc was. Between the 2, over 100 million people were murdered. Way more than all other political systems combined in all of history. Religion runs a close second to Communism in body count.


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