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51 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:06 am

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The TOP earning doctors in WRHA earn that much, but the average do not.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/er-doctors-top-earners-wrha-report-shows-97460379.html

That's mainly ER doctors (which is a high need in Manitoba right now and so commands a higher salary), doesn't even seem to feature other specialties such as neurosurgery that are highly paying, and definitely doesn't include the average family MD.

Here is info on the pay of an average family MD in Canada ($93,000- 144,000 average):
http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Family_Physician_%2F_Doctor/Salary

and broken down by province we are pretty much middle of the pack:
http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Family_Physician_%2f_Doctor/Salary/by_State


By major cities in Canada, Edmonton pays way more than Winnipeg does.

This is a Canadian article with an interesting chart regarding the salaries of physician specialties and includes their overhead costs (which many people don't consider when moaning about how much those doctors make).... http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/doctor-salaries-not-as-high-as-you-think.htm

52 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:11 pm

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Deank wrote:Which is bullshit of course. Because having sat there before I know full well there are lots of open spots so the fact that someone might cancel or not show up? I doubt they even care to call anyone on the cancellation list. Why bother?

I have to agree. I doubt they even have a list. My daughter's eye is infected again....I keep waiting for that call...


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53 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:31 am

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darkwind wrote:Here is info on the pay of an average family MD in Canada ($93,000- 144,000 average):
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This is a Canadian article with an interesting chart regarding the salaries of physician specialties and includes their overhead costs (which many people don't consider when moaning about how much those doctors make)....
Yes, in line with what I stated for Canadian average. Manitoba gross incomes are listed at the end of this document, feel free to look up how much your doc made last year:
http://www.gov.mb.ca/health/ann/docs/0809.pdf
Note that there are some with relatively "low" incomes, such as B. Postl making "only" $87,1075. This is actually for a few clinical hours he has to put in just to keep his license in addition to the $408,438 he took home as an administrator for WRHA.

54 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:01 am

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My doctor, who only works part-time now (three days a week) made $100K.

Not bad at all eh.

55 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:41 pm

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My GP made $126,000 and my back specialist made $293,000

56 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:00 am

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LOL

Dr DJ Funk made $211505. Dont know who he is, but that is a pretty cool name.


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57 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:11 pm

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Goth_chic wrote:GOM, I have sent letters to MP's, MLA's etc. I have spoken with WRHA as well. I am on the cancellation list and have been since April.

UPDATE!

Its now been 13 months since my son was first given permission to see the specialist. My wife tried calling two weeks ago

message says.. we are on vacation and the office is closed to Sept. 27.

I call my wife today and remind her to call. She calls and the message says. I am away from my desk right now, please leave a message. As GC is well aware leaving a message with this specialist is useless they never call back. So my wife waits 30 minutes.. calls back.. we are on vacation until Oct. 4.

F this sh1t, I call our health ministers office and complain. They will be looking into it ASAP. I can understand waiting, sure.. sorta... but not really since its my sons eyesight that we are talking about here, but the complete and utter lack of communication from them is ridiculous. I told the person answering the phone that I would drive myself to regina at my expense if need be, but this is absolute crap.


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58 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:36 pm

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So why doesn't the health system set up a wholesale purchase of labour with USA Doctors, so that Manitoba's can get looked after?
I wonder if clinics with excess capacity would accept the Manitoba pay schedule, and Manitobans could get looked after?
Has any one tried suing the system for delay?
Any lawyers out there?
that is what i want to try, but not until after my Nov 2nd operation.


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59 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:38 pm

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I have gotten MRI's within 3 days off the cancellation list, bt I phoned them early in the morning and asked if there were any cancellations, and I got one real quick.


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60 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:08 pm

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grumble..

the guy my son is waiting to see made 367K in 2008/09


not such a good rating either
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/44869/Dr-Paul-Shuckett-Winnipeg-MB.html


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61 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:44 pm

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I am still waiting for a call...ridiculous!


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62 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:48 pm

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considering they always seem to be on vacation when we call.. not hard to understand why you are still waiting for a call


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63 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:53 pm

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I had to wait a month to see a plastics guy here in Winnipeg. Mind you, I was referred by another specialist in BC, and the work has already been done - he just needs to make sure it turned out the way it was supposed to, which takes all of 10 minutes.

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64 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:03 pm

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yep those are boobs.

takes about 3 seconds Razz


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65 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:00 am

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Deank wrote:yep those are boobs.

takes about 3 seconds Razz

not if it's done right...could take hours and hours and hours Wink

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66 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:35 am

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I have some updates regarding my daughters ridiculously long wait. I have spoken with a rep from the PC party of MB and they are all over this. I still haven't heard a word from our current health minister (big surprise). The eye doc has also called my daughters pediatrician this week...I am hoping she will get in to see him sooner rather then later!


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67 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:36 am

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and I am now sitting at 14 months waiting just to be told when my appointment is


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68 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:55 pm

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rosencrentz wrote:So why doesn't the health system set up a wholesale purchase of labour with USA Doctors, so that Manitoba's can get looked after?
That's not necessarily easy for specialists. Particularly, if they specialize in a rare condition there may not be enough people in the province to have someone here full-time. For example, there are about 350 people with MS in Manitoba. If a specialist was able to see about 15 patients per day, or 105 per week, all MS patients would be able to see the specialist about once per month. Do they have to go to the specialist this often or even more often? So is this enough demand for even one MS specialist, or do we need more than one? I would guess that for many specialities they are able to estimate the demand and try to fill it as good as possible. Sometimes it maybe better to fly someone in from Toronto or other city a few times a year and have the wait times in between.

69 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:42 am

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Many such specialists also do research. Perhaps there could be a resident MS specialist in Winnipeg if there was additional research available to her/him.

Mind you there are probably no MS studies of any value anyway... /sarcasm


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70 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:17 am

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Or people can go south and PAY for it to be done .

71 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:20 am

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Pavolo wrote:Or people can go south and PAY for it to be done .

And that would be just....evil.

72 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:30 am

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grumpy old man wrote:Many such specialists also do research. Perhaps there could be a resident MS specialist in Winnipeg if there was additional research available to her/him.

Mind you there are probably no MS studies of any value anyway... /sarcasm
To be able to do research they have to write proposals and compete for funds. I think there is at least one specialist for MS in Manitoba, and her publications pretty much reflect what we know about MS in the Province.

73 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:46 am

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My point was maybe such a specialist could do both: consult with patients and conduct research.


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74 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:27 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:My point was maybe such a specialist could do both: consult with patients and conduct research.
Sure thing, but they make their money with billable hours, and am not sure if research as non-patient service can be charged to the Province.

75 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:05 am

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grumpy old man wrote:My point was maybe such a specialist could do both: consult with patients and conduct research.

...and just where would you get this 'super person' that is able to do both research and carry a patient load?

76 Re: Wait times to see a specialist on Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:44 am

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It's just an idea for Christ's sake. Blue skying. Brain storming.


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