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why is it that the cops are the ones that had to do this?

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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/cops-built-rink-now-seek-skates-84764662.html


Its a great thing they did, no doubt it actually helps them in their job. But a community with 400 kids and NONE of the parents can step up and get a rink built????


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Is that a rhetorical question?

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pretty much.


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Deank wrote:But a community with 400 kids and NONE of the parents can step up and get a rink built????

Because no one gave them the money to do it?

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thankfully the cops are not religous or else pat martin would have blocked this.


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Or asked for equal space to put his message on the boards.

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So when will the press conference be from the AMC thanking the RCMP for their thoughtfulness?


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Thanking them? How about - why did it take so long for us to get our own rink when everybody else has one? I wonder if the locals will shovel it off or abandon it - after a snow-fall.

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This is a chance for the community to step up and do something as a community. One bit of bitter irony here.....a firehose was used to make the rink. Where was the fire department on the night the eleven year old perished?

When i read a story like this I am angered and saddened simultaneously. I am happy that the kids are going to have a rink but saddened that the folks in that community are so demoralized that they cannot get off of their asses to build something so simple as this for the kids without outside help? Yes, equipment donations are great and necessary but there has been nothing to stop the locals from clearing and flooding a spot for a rink for christ's sake.

Some years ago my husband did a job up at Shamattawa and some of the contractors got together to build a small basketball court. They volunteered their time and covered the materials and when they asked for local help not one person would step up to volunteer.

Now what does that say?


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Miz point wrote:So when will the press conference be from the AMC thanking the RCMP for their thoughtfulness?

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Miz point wrote:This is a chance for the community to step up and do something as a community. One bit of bitter irony here.....a firehose was used to make the rink. Where was the fire department on the night the eleven year old perished?

When i read a story like this I am angered and saddened simultaneously. I am happy that the kids are going to have a rink but saddened that the folks in that community are so demoralized that they cannot get off of their asses to build something so simple as this for the kids without outside help? Yes, equipment donations are great and necessary but there has been nothing to stop the locals from clearing and flooding a spot for a rink for christ's sake.

Some years ago my husband did a job up at Shamattawa and some of the contractors got together to build a small basketball court. They volunteered their time and covered the materials and when they asked for local help not one person would step up to volunteer.

Now what does that say?

Not much different then some inner city community clubs for that matter most , people do not give freely that much any more so lets drop the o so quiet inference as to race here Mizz .
There are just as many lazy of all races and it doe,s not only happen to be one . May be it time for you to stop the race association to most of your human nature post .

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I hope some of the parents whose kids may benefit from the rink helped.

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Pavolo wrote:There are just as many lazy of all races and it does not only happen to be one. Maybe it is time for you to stop the race association to most of your human-nature posts.
While there are too many lazy Canadians of all stripes (me included) there is ample proof that one Canadian group has a disproportionately higher than average dispensation to sloth. And drug and alcohol abuse. And criminal behaviour.

This may be uncomfortable to read and hear. That does not make it untrue.

The challenge is what is THAT community doing about it. And what can the greater community do to help?



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Pavolo wrote:Not much different then some inner city community clubs for that matter most , people do not give freely that much any more so lets drop the o so quiet inference as to race here Mizz .
There are just as many lazy of all races and it doe,s not only happen to be one . May be it time for you to stop the race association to most of your human nature post .

One thing to be sure of is the make up of the community in question. And as far a inner city community clubs, what are the demographics of the population that they serve? Its a rhetoric question, but I think it gets the point across.

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Pav help me ureconcile this. 4 RCMP officers threw up some boards for a much-needed and wanted outdoor rink (outside of their full-time duty schedules) - and there are 400 able-bodied adults living there - that didn't. Explain.

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Ahhhh....none of the kids have skates and non have shown an interest in skating perhaps?

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Perhaps they didn't show an interest in skating because there was nowhere to skate?

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I'm pretty sure that if they had skates, thay'd find a place to use them.

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I can appreciate the poverty in a place litke Shamattawa, but at some point, wouldn't the parents and the community leadership have figured out that recreational alternatives would be a really good thing for the kids. Key work being "leadership."

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I used to see kids playing things like broom-ball on rinks. So even without skates there are ways for kids to stay engaged in better activities.

The parents really need to lead in these centres. Find a way to encourage the kids to play hockey or broom-ball or speed-skating... Whatever. It really starts with the parents.


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Or you could sit down and huff some glue.

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"Find a way to encourage the kids to play hockey or broom-ball or speed-skating..."
It's not the kids who need encouragement. My kids are dragging me to the rink as I type.

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Pavolo wrote:
Miz point wrote:This is a chance for the community to step up and do something as a community. One bit of bitter irony here.....a firehose was used to make the rink. Where was the fire department on the night the eleven year old perished?

When i read a story like this I am angered and saddened simultaneously. I am happy that the kids are going to have a rink but saddened that the folks in that community are so demoralized that they cannot get off of their asses to build something so simple as this for the kids without outside help? Yes, equipment donations are great and necessary but there has been nothing to stop the locals from clearing and flooding a spot for a rink for christ's sake.

Some years ago my husband did a job up at Shamattawa and some of the contractors got together to build a small basketball court. They volunteered their time and covered the materials and when they asked for local help not one person would step up to volunteer.

Now what does that say?

Not much different then some inner city community clubs for that matter most , people do not give freely that much any more so lets drop the o so quiet inference as to race here Mizz .
There are just as many lazy of all races and it doe,s not only happen to be one . May be it time for you to stop the race association to most of your human nature post .

Maybe it is time for you to stop reading something insidious into my prose that does not exist.

There is only one race Pav - the human race - made up of various ethnic, religious, political, economic, sizes, shapes and colours. One race.

We are discussing Shamattawa here so do not go off on tangents regarding the laziness of other groups of folks. I believe and I think many others would concur, that there is something intrinsically wrong with a community, any community, when able-bodied adults consistently sit back and do nothing but are happy (?) to have outsiders do it for them....Hahahah! and here is the punchline Pav - these same adults will teach their children and children's children to hate that group of outsiders and sh1t all over any positive endeavours because MISERY LOVES COMPANY.

Sorry dude, reality sucks doesn't it? Stating the obvious does not make me a racist. How soon you forget that I expressed sadness in my original post. Funny how you leave that out in your haste to stick up for your employers?


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wpg_idiot wrote:Or you could sit down and huff some glue.
There are just as many glue-huffers of all races and it does not only happen to be one. Maybe it is time for you to stop the race association to most of your glue-huffing posts.

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If I was born and raised in Shamattawa, and without much hope of ever getting out, I'd be sniffing glue too, probably.

I listened to a young kid from there being interviewed, and what he said shocked me.

He said that they were all told that children automatically went to heaven when they died. Some kill themselves before they become audults for this reason.

Think about that for a moment....the utter dispair that must be felt.

The sooner we close down the Reserve System the better imo.

Let these folks enjoy what we take for granted.

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