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26 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:45 pm

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Giving a brain dead idiot working at a fast food restaurant a government imposed raise does not make the service levels any better.

Funny we pay union brain dead fools alot more then any service industry worker. And they get undeserved raises too.

27 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:54 pm

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This flat out has a negative impact on businesses with a high ratio of entry level workers. Also, I cannot figure out why on God's green earth people cannot figure out that when minimum wage goes up, prices on goods and services in various industries will increase. This will eventually balance out and those cheering the minimum wage increases will be in the same boat they were before.

Gov't wins on this because it brings in more tax dollars, and it could buy votes from those who aren't able to fully grasp what is happening to them when they receive such increases.

28 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:27 pm

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"This will eventually balance out and those cheering the minimum wage increases will be in the same boat they were before"

yup.. usually within 3-6 months once profits at the business are noted to start going downwards and the owners finally decide to pass it on to customers.


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29 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:39 pm

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This will drive the size of donuts down....now my walnut crunches will be the size of...of...well walnuts. Damn those commie bastards!!

30 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:46 pm

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31 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:50 pm

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Funny stuff.....hehehe


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32 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:28 pm

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If you cant pay a living wage... yada yada yada.,,,

whatever dude.

If your prices are X and your cost .95X and a government mandate drives your costs to .98X ( numbers all pulled out of my arse).... Lets see how long before you raise your prices... or I guess just have the money come out of your pocket.


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33 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:31 pm

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I guess his point is that a living wage is worth raising prices.

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34 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:54 pm

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not if you are serving McDonalds hamburgers.


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35 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:18 am

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So... you are suggesting that McDonald's is having a hard time meeting their bottom line??

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36 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:47 am

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Anybody that pays more than they have to will not be around for very long....especially in the restaurant business.

Imo, there is a very small market here for $50 pizzas.

37 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:16 am

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anny wrote:So... you are suggesting that McDonald's is having a hard time meeting their bottom line??

used simply as an example


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38 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:07 pm

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anny wrote:So... you are suggesting that McDonald's is having a hard time meeting their bottom line??

McDonald's just raised their prices though.

Here's REAL numbers:

Bacon McMuffin + Large Diet Coke WAS $5.00

Same exact selection now = $5.35

They changed it without warning and midweek with no explanation.

a nickel here or there isn't a big deal...but did I get a raise to match the increase in price? (the answer is no)

any FORCED increase in wages for a business can be devastating to that business. Larger corporations usually have standard increases factored into their costs...but when the government comes along and says "time to raise again"...it's a blow to the bottom line...and WILL get passed on to the consumer very quickly.

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39 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:09 pm

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40 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:54 pm

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Northlands wrote:

Gov't wins on this because it brings in more tax dollars,

But even that isn't a plus if the price of everything is increasing...


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41 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:56 pm

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ahhh... but the government dont say things like that when they say... heynow! look how great MB is doing we brought in 15Mill more this year then last.. proof of our provinces prosperity!


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42 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:10 pm

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Manitoba will end up like Greece.

Every one in Manitoba will be employed by the government. Manitoba will depend on the good folks of Canada to pay for it all.

Increasing minimum wage, will drive up prices or cut profits for small businesses, it will drive small businesses out of business, those people will become unemployed. The Government will get more control over our every day lives as people give up our liberty for security.


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43 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:52 pm

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Deank wrote:ahhh... but the government dont say things like that when they say... heynow! look how great MB is doing we brought in 15Mill more this year then last.. proof of our provinces prosperity!

Right. That is true.


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44 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:49 pm

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LivingDead wrote:Manitoba will end up like Greece.

Every one in Manitoba will be employed by the government. Manitoba will depend on the good folks of Canada to pay for it all.

Increasing minimum wage, will drive up prices or cut profits for small businesses, it will drive small businesses out of business, those people will become unemployed. The Government will get more control over our every day lives as people give up our liberty for security.

Are you willing to turn down your next raise .

45 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:52 pm

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Give Me a ffffing break the sky is falling the world will end , bussiness will up its prices just like it doe,s when commodities go up . Noticed the price of Bread recently .

46 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:19 pm

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And then the Commie Bastards can up the minimum wage again to everyone has a "living wage."

47 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:22 pm

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Cept the farmer

48 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:26 pm

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It is 50 cents what the hell , it is enough to break Wallmart.

49 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:24 am

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I hate when they raise the min wage. It doesn't help those poor, unfortunates who make it. prices go up, and guess what? they are no further ahead.

The middle class, those of us who earn $12 - $15/hr are the ones who hurt. Our wages don't increase to offset the cost of living due to the government induced inflation.

If the government is so screwed up about people hardly getting by, why don't they make it more attractive for employers to open up shop here and maybe god forbid, make it harder for unions.

50 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:27 am

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Or harder for people to not succeed in school as lack of eduacation is one of the biggest reasons for the low wages. This is not the only reason but it is one of them , valid or not .

51 Re: Eateries ‘starving’? on Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:44 am

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winnipegceilingcat wrote:I hate when they raise the min wage. It doesn't help those poor, unfortunates who make it. prices go up, and guess what? they are no further ahead.

The middle class, those of us who earn $12 - $15/hr are the ones who hurt. Our wages don't increase to offset the cost of living due to the government induced inflation.

If the government is so screwed up about people hardly getting by, why don't they make it more attractive for employers to open up shop here and maybe god forbid, make it harder for unions.

Middle class is $12-$15/hr now? That's $24,000 to $30,000/annually...hardly middle class, at least not at anytime since the early 1990's. Sounds to me like what you really need is some sort of way to get some annual raises tied to the rate of inflation (at minimum), rather than cry about how unions are making it harder for you.

More employers opening up shop at $12/hr (a decent starting wage in 1995) will do nothing to help people hardly getting by. All it does it create more working poor jobs.

There is a definite wage disparity gap that continues to grow that many people refuse to see even though it's happening right in front of their eyes. Rather than blame the real causes (corporate greed, globalization, the race to the bottom etc.) I guess it's easy to blame those damn unions.

Here's a few clips from a recent McLeans article:
" according to Armine Yalnizyan, an economist at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, it’s the kind of jobs that were lost that’s cause for concern. Whereas the recession in the early ’80s replaced full-time jobs with part-time jobs, and the one in the ’90s replaced traditional employment with self-employment, this downturn “seems to be replacing permanent jobs with temporary jobs,” she says. “Where is the next generation of middle-class jobs going to come from?” she asks. “There’s just nothing coming up on the menu"
"The trouble is that with median family incomes slipping, indebtedness at record highs and boomer parents struggling, many youth can’t afford to delay working. To make matters worse, says David Green, an economist at the University of British Columbia, the social safety net is not what it once was. While 83 per cent of those who were unemployed at the beginning of the recession in the early ’90s qualified for jobless benefits, this time only 43 per cent qualified. And incomes aren’t what they used to be either: though new workers began to gain ground again in the mid-’90s, at the start of the recent recession, says Green, they were still facing real wages below those of their counterparts in the early ’80s"

IMHO there is a direct corelation between the decline of union memberships and general wage stagnation over the last 30 years. You can blame succesive governments, and particullarly NAFTA for forging agreements that led directly to an increase in globalization (N.American manufacturing losses) and the direct losses of tens of thousands of GOOD PAYING JOBS. Unions are not not blame for this. Corporate greed and a government unwilling to protect the best interests of their citizens is to blame.

Or we can all put our heads in the sand and think that everything is peachy because the last unemployment numbers said so, even though ALL the new jobs created were part time and their was a LOSS OF FULL-TIME jobs. Does being middle-class entail working 2 part-time jobs now too?

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