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1 No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 12:30 am

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Good or bad idea?

"The Winnipeg Football Club is continuing to work closely with the Winnipeg Police Services and Manitoba Liquor Control Commission in order to provide a better overall experience for all those in attendance. There will be an increased police presence at the games and within the parking lots to ensure no liquor enters the stadium. In addition, a “no re-entry” policy has been put into place so fans will no longer be allowed to exit the facility once they have been scanned in. "


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2 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 12:47 am

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They've had tight liquor-entry controls for years. They always check bags etc when passing through. I seem to recall having a hard time leaving and returning before also. I had to go out and give somebody tickets and it was complicated. They could reduce smuggling if only they'd lower the beer prices to something less than the $7 or whatever the ridiculous price is now. Anybody know what a beer was last season? Wouldn't surprise me if it went to $8.

3 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 6:49 am

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IMHO a no re-entry policy is frigging lame.
Like Jondo said, drop beer prices and the smuggling will decline. They should build the new stadium (not that we need it, as I've been saying for the past 3 years) with at least 40k seats with a dome. Make it year round. Have the ability to install a ice surface for hockey/figureskating. Foot ball in the summer, NHL in the winter/spring.
Build it where there is ample parking. Polo Park area would be best. Let the club collect parking $$, drop liquor/beer prices. Not every one is a drunken fool, just kick out the idiots/drunks.


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4 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 8:16 am

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So this is what the board does eh. All those brilliant minds and this is what crap they come up with....commie bastards!!

Isn't it about time we elected the members of the Bomber's Board?

5 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 8:19 am

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Trouble with that JTF is we already elect people to manage things for us (mayor, MP, MPP, MLA, councilor, etc...) and that doesn't provide us with satisfactory results. We keep reelecting the same bozos. And they keep disappointing.

I predict same results for an elected WBB board...


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6 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 8:25 am

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Well, at least we'd know who there are and we could 'de-elect' them.

C'mon....these guys are making multi-million dollar decisions without anyone being able to challenge them it appears....at least nobody does.

7 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 8:27 am

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Don't get me wrong. I don't disagree, I'm just sayin'...


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8 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 8:28 am

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I know.

9 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 9:00 am

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no re-entry? frick you.

there WILL be a significant drop in attendance because of that.

how about no re-entry if you are pissed out of your skull? that would be acceptable.


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10 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 9:03 am

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The bozos running things over there have not clue one on how to run an event. Perhaps the True North peeps need to take control.


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11 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 9:07 am

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Prohibited Items
-Alcoholic beverages
-Animals other than service animals
-Any items that can be used as a projectile
-Balloons
-Beach balls
-Flag poles
-Fireworks
-Illegal drugs
-Laser lights
-Electronic and other noise makers (at the discretion of WFC)
-Strollers
-Weapons
-Large slurpee or drink cups
-Bottles, coolers or containers
-Umbrellas

Items allowed into the facility
-Single serving food items
-Sealed water or pop bottles in a single serving size (900ml or less)
-Single serving coffee/hot chocolate cups
-Cameras (non professional)
-Flags on collapsible ball retriever poles
-Thermos (however will be subject to search)

Please note that all items listed as prohibited are at the discretion of Winnipeg Football Club


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12 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 9:09 am

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really.. balloons? flag poles? noise makers?


you trying to make this the least entertaining football game on the planet?


STROLLERS??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


holy frick.. really? WTF is wrong with you people.


http://www.bluebombers.com/page/game_policies


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13 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 9:14 am

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See, here is the trouble. A balloon or beach ball will allow the fans to entertain themselves during slow parts of the game. Recent games have been 50 minutes slow times and 10 minutes sheer boredom. The WBB bozos (here-to-after called WBBB) then would have to deal with balloons and beach balls the entire game.

As for strollers, the WBBB is working very hard at completely eliminating any possibility of developing new fans. They are starting with infants and toddlers.


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14 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 12:00 pm

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Although I don't disagree with this new policy, I understand why they are doing what they are doing. The newspapers don't report all of the reasons behind the new rule. Most of the police issues with alcohol are from section S on the East side. Problems in this section have been long standing, even back into the early 80's. Hubby and I used to have season tickets in section R and it was a problem back then. They have also stated that they will make exceptions on a case by case basis especially for families with young children. As for the stroller issue, where would you store it once you get to your seat???? If it were an unbrella stroller, possibly under the bleacher seats but it too can become a projectile devise in the wrong hands. And if you are bringing young children to the game you most likely would park as close as possible and carry the baby &/or walk slow with the toddler. The other option that is being looked at is having a lockup cage for strollers so that the parents can bring the kids into the stadium but not bring the stroller to the seats. Of course this would need some extra thought as far as security but it could work similar to a coat check at a bar/hotel/convention room where you check in your stroller and receive a numbered tag to retrieve it at the end of the game. Could be done as a fundraising opportunity to a local sports team in conjunction with say the 50/50 draw that goes on each game.
I just had a memory of one of the last Wpg Jets games that we attended where Kraft/Nabisco was the sponsor and to the first 5000??? through the door they handed out Kraft Peanut Butter jars. The game was against Ottawa, who at that time were a bottom dweller and the Jets were in the playoffs. Jets up say 5-1 going into the 3rd, and by the last 5 minutes the score was Ottawa 6 Jets 5. The fans were so outraged that the Kraft Peanut Butter jars were thrown onto the ice a breakneck speed, some causing serious damage not only to players but to the glass and the ice surface with the containers breaking open and the peanut butter spewing all over the ice that the game had to be called. Needless to say this is something that the Bombers as well as the Goldeyes and the Moose remember and is partly why some of the items on their "forbidden" list are there.


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15 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 6:15 pm

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holly golightly wrote:Although I don't disagree with this new policy, I understand why they are doing what they are doing. The newspapers don't report all of the reasons behind the new rule. Most of the police issues with alcohol are from section S on the East side. Problems in this section have been long standing, even back into the early 80's. Hubby and I used to have season tickets in section R and it was a problem back then. They have also stated that they will make exceptions on a case by case basis especially for families with young children. As for the stroller issue, where would you store it once you get to your seat???? If it were an unbrella stroller, possibly under the bleacher seats but it too can become a projectile devise in the wrong hands. And if you are bringing young children to the game you most likely would park as close as possible and carry the baby &/or walk slow with the toddler. The other option that is being looked at is having a lockup cage for strollers so that the parents can bring the kids into the stadium but not bring the stroller to the seats. Of course this would need some extra thought as far as security but it could work similar to a coat check at a bar/hotel/convention room where you check in your stroller and receive a numbered tag to retrieve it at the end of the game. Could be done as a fundraising opportunity to a local sports team in conjunction with say the 50/50 draw that goes on each game.
I just had a memory of one of the last Wpg Jets games that we attended where Kraft/Nabisco was the sponsor and to the first 5000??? through the door they handed out Kraft Peanut Butter jars. The game was against Ottawa, who at that time were a bottom dweller and the Jets were in the playoffs. Jets up say 5-1 going into the 3rd, and by the last 5 minutes the score was Ottawa 6 Jets 5. The fans were so outraged that the Kraft Peanut Butter jars were thrown onto the ice a breakneck speed, some causing serious damage not only to players but to the glass and the ice surface with the containers breaking open and the peanut butter spewing all over the ice that the game had to be called. Needless to say this is something that the Bombers as well as the Goldeyes and the Moose remember and is partly why some of the items on their "forbidden" list are there.

yeah i kinda remember that game, it would be great to find footage of that but youtube came up nil

16 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 6:50 pm

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The way to handle such issues is not to punish everybody. Deal with the morons. Stop over-serving the drunks. Provide a place to store the strollers. This is not rocket surgery.

There is an answer that is patron-friendly. But the WBB's have no concept of good customer-service. They are completely incompetent.

Add up all these patron-unfriendly policies and you have peeps refusing to go to games. Throw in horrid concessions; nasty toilets; snarly security guards; a hate for tale-gating parties; zero pregame entertainment...

It all adds up to a less than desirable event. If I'm a casual Bomber fan why would I put up with that?


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17 Re: No re-entry policy on Tue May 18, 2010 11:42 pm

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I have to chuckle at the "Cameras - non-professional" designation. I know a lot of "amateurs" who pack some serious gear. What makes the camera "professional" is the fact that the person carrying it makes a living off of their images....so what WBBB, are you gonna ask me for a T f*cking 4 when I come in with a decent looking set of gear? Screw you.

What a fascistic move on the part of the club. Sounds to me like not much fun to be had.


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18 Re: No re-entry policy on Wed May 19, 2010 6:49 am

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Jondo wrote:They've had tight liquor-entry controls for years. They always check bags etc when passing through. I seem to recall having a hard time leaving and returning before also. I had to go out and give somebody tickets and it was complicated. They could reduce smuggling if only they'd lower the beer prices to something less than the $7 or whatever the ridiculous price is now. Anybody know what a beer was last season? Wouldn't surprise me if it went to $8.
Funny as a season ticket holder for 15 yrs I would say you are wrong again. Getting in and out was not that hard and people have smuggled booze in for years . Difference was that people knew how to behave in public and had some pride .

19 Re: No re-entry policy on Wed May 19, 2010 9:46 am

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"Difference was that people knew how to behave in public and had some pride ."

100% this!


plus dont forget the inquiry to the drunk moron falling off the stands and dieing just came out and the bombers are trying to cover their asses for some of that.


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20 Re: No re-entry policy on Thu May 20, 2010 3:02 pm

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Miz point wrote:I have to chuckle at the "Cameras - non-professional" designation. I know a lot of "amateurs" who pack some serious gear. What makes the camera "professional" is the fact that the person carrying it makes a living off of their images....so what WBBB, are you gonna ask me for a T f*cking 4 when I come in with a decent looking set of gear? Screw you.

What a fascistic move on the part of the club. Sounds to me like not much fun to be had.

The Winnipeg Stadium is private property and can set its rules as they wish. However it comes down to the fact that images of the players and fans are protected by the team and the league accordingly.

Hence the reason they usually have focal length restrictions on cameras brought into the stadium. Bringing a point and shoot is generally not a problem, however hauling in an SLR with a 500mm lens is.

Amateur photographers have to understand that you can't expect to be able to take pictures of anything you want without permission.

21 Re: No re-entry policy on Thu May 20, 2010 3:08 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:As for strollers, the WBBB is working very hard at completely eliminating any possibility of developing new fans. They are starting with infants and toddlers.

As someone with a 7 month old I wouldn't even think to bring a stroller to a game.

If you can't carry your child or be patient enough to let your toddler walk, how do you expect to be able to carry your stroller and child up the steps to your seat? Also where do you plan on storing said stroller?

If my wife and I brought our son to a game, one would carry him and the other would carry a backpack with diapers, food and toys for him. Adding a stroller would just be an added hassle IMO.

22 Re: No re-entry policy on Thu May 20, 2010 3:44 pm

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Ummm, did you READ my post? Go ahead. I'll wait.

*taps fingers impatiently*

Not ever having the inclination to welcome toddlers to a game... ...others have. Dragging said toddler from whatever far parking spot could be very tiring for toddler and parents/grand-parents. Having a stroller to handle the heavy lifting is handy IMO. Provide a place under the stands to store said stroller relieves them the worry of dealing with the stairs and the stands.


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23 Re: No re-entry policy on Thu May 20, 2010 4:08 pm

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or like I always did. I made sure to get a seat where me having a stroller would not be a problem.


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24 Re: No re-entry policy on Fri May 21, 2010 4:15 pm

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I was just thinking.

We could use a no re-entry policy for men and women with children on welfare.


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25 Re: No re-entry policy on Fri May 21, 2010 4:50 pm

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The comment about "address the morons, and not the majority" was right-on.

Stop punishing everyone because there are a few stupid people out there.

Take those idiots and deal with THEM.

It doesn't matter what type of stupid rules they make...there will ALWAYS be idiots in the stands...all these new rules do is piss off otherwise decent fans, reduce the likelihood of "casual" game attendees, and make the impression that going to a game is a danger to your life.

They should do what many of the US NFL teams (I know Philly did it) to address similar problems. Setup a jail (holding area) and courthouse right in the stadium (usually in the area under the stadium). Anyone who is unruly or causing problems gets taken to "jail" by police officers and held there till AFTER the game. THEN a judge comes and holds court and issues fines or confinement for each of the offenders.

It's a real court, real cops, real judge, and real jail-time if the offense is serious enough.

The problems they were having almost have vanished. Tailgating still happens, people still get drunk at games, and there are 2 or 3 TIMES the number of people in the stands!!!

AGAIN...there will ALWAYS be the odd idiot who is going to cause problems...and some/most of them get drunk on just 1 beer...so what next? ban beer 100%? ban fans who yell or scream in support of their team?

All the football club has done is blanketly punished thousands of fans who actually support the club...instead of addressing the individual problems of a few bad apples.

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