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1 is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:01 am

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should "disabled" campgrounds be reserved solely for the disabled and if not booked sit there empty and unused?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/campground-discrimination-96275563.html


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2 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:05 am

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One could say, well, those parking spots (reserved for the disabled) aren't being used so who is gonna know the difference if I park there for a wee bit?


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3 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:24 am

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not really the same thing at all in my opinion. There are ALWAYS options to a "normal" person for parking, even it if means parking down the street and walking. But there are not always options for camping.


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4 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:27 am

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How many disabled spaces are available? Most likely a very small percentage.


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5 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:43 am

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How many disabled people actually go camping? Probably an even smaller percentage.


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6 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:02 am

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Ok here is a suggestion....let us say for a peak time like the weekend or a long weekend.....since the logistics would be greater for a disabled person to go camping it could be safely assumed that of course they would be pre-booking a site specific to their needs. Now let's say there was a cutoff time for booking a site - say by the preceding Friday afternoon of a particular weekend.....then the space could be freed up for abled campers.


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7 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:27 am

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sounds good

sounds like this instance was all about the season site passes though. Makes it a little difficult for "abled" bodied people to swallow a "draw" for first choice being given to a disabled person just because they are disabled.


I wonder how many people who enter the draws would quickly find a "disabled" friend or relative.


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8 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:58 am

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The other day at Safeway I saw a guy beating up a disabled person. After I intervened I asked the dude why he was beating up the disabled person. He said "I caught him using one of our parking spots".

I know, I know...


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9 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:31 pm

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I LOL'd so yes I am going straight to hell Smile


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10 Re: is a campground a human right? on Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:32 pm

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I will have the beers ready! Gotta admit, it was funny!


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11 Re: is a campground a human right? on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:25 pm

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We use provincial campgrounds every year.
We're trying to visit as many different ones as possible...however...
We don't even consider it if there's no "modern showers/washrooms", and if there's no option to get electric at our campsite.

When booking though...there's checkboxes for "disabled" and "pets" etc. Options we could request...with no special requirement for booking.

The province could quickly solve the "problem" by having a pop-up if someone checks "disabled" requiring the user to punch in some kind of permit # or parking ID # (like the tags have), and so ONLY people who have a registered disability can get that camping spot...UP TO...the week before...and then the sites are released to anyone.

It's a simple programming thing...and could actually be done to ALL provincial campgrounds without having to change anything at the campground itself.

I couldn't understand from the article though if the crybaby was saying she paid more or less than "normal" people for the site they did get. It SHOULD be the same as everyone else...no "special" rates.

I do agree with one of the commentors though...that it any change should ONLY apply to Federal or Provincial (ie. government funded) parks. Private parks can do whatever they want.

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12 Re: is a campground a human right? on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:35 pm

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She was going to be charged more, but then they gave her a break


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13 Re: is a campground a human right? on Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:57 pm

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Just out of curiosity, just what is a disabled camping spot?


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14 Re: is a campground a human right? on Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:12 pm

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One that was involved in a very tragic accident when it was younger?


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15 Re: is a campground a human right? on Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:54 pm

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...and has a limp.

16 Re: is a campground a human right? on Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:51 am

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Deank wrote:How many disabled people actually go camping? Probably an even smaller percentage.

Better question.

How many disabled people go camping without a reservation?

17 Re: is a campground a human right? on Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:10 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:Just out of curiosity, just what is a disabled camping spot?

just means it's closer to the "services", and typically is flatter, with either a nice flat access, or a pull-through site for easier entry/setup.

from the provincial parks i've been in...MOST the sites they offer that have electricity/water are all pretty easily accessible. where the hills and harder areas come in would be tent-only / no-service site.

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