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1 on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:50 pm

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so we all know the stories of the cost of milk hitting $20ish on some reserves and that some people are saying we should subsidize milk delivery and such.

Why dont those reserves import this instead?

http://www.parmalat.ca/ourbrands/parmalat.htm#uhtmilk




We use it here at work ( and we used this all the time growing up in The Pas) . The stuff we just got this week has a listed expiry day of Feb 18, 2011.

But from everything I know and the information on the website this stuff is virtually good "forever".

It would not only NOT need to be shipped in a refer truck it "stacks" better and more could be shipped.

HELL why dont they use powdered milk? Then they would be saving on shipping the weight of the water in the milk.



CS... any input on this?


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2 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:06 pm

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Bastards should subsidize flights... They'd probably be able to get a charitable number for it...

But they won't...

3 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:28 pm

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The key word here is monopoly.

It would make sense to bring in supplies like you outlined. God knows the band councils get more than a lion's share of money to light fire to, but nobody ever sees. But then the monopoly that companies like Northern/Northmart and Arctic Co-op have on food sales (and community kickbacks that the band gets from the store) would fail. It extends well beyond milk, which is the most classic example. Fresh produce, too, is out of this world. It arrives beaten and bruised, and costs three times what you and I would pay for it in a store. Ditto for meat. The profit margins that stores like Northern make on selling into fly in/winter road communities is huge, because hey, there isn't anywhere else to go!

NWC et al. are also in the business of selling furniture, boats, skidoos, ATV's. Because they broker their own credit, and are also the only bank in town, they get the rez folk to bite at buying a sat. dish and a new skidoo, lock them into payments with insane interest, and when people default, they garnish their welfare cheques when the come to cash them. So now, instead of buying some yummy fresh milk, they're paying for a couch and a fishing boat with their welfare cheque, and buying Twinkies and purple koolaid with what remains. Diabetes is rampant, teeth are non-existant, everyone is obese.

Cycle just repeats, over and over.

The other part of the issue, with rez folks, is that they tend to think/problem solve/spend like children. There seems to be lack of foresight and planning that most of us consider adult. Hubby and I observed a general lack of parenting over generations, despite people having a large number of kids, and multiple generations care taking in a home. No examples, no rules, no enforcement, no education. That lack of "if I stick my hand on a hot stove, it will get burned and it will hurt, so I won't do that" seems almost entirely absent. Kids raise themselves, and become stunted adults that have no concept of cause & effect. I used to go home and cry after issuing credit to someone who would never get credit in the real world, because I knew that the new couch and TV they bought would mean their kids were eating garbage for months.






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4 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:28 pm

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We used that milk in Central America......it worked fine for sauces and such. I would occasionally buy the fresh milk for my cereal but for everyday use I did not find it off-putting in the least. Growing up in Churchill I always thought milk came in a can with a cow on it - evaporated milk.


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5 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:34 pm

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CitizenSourpuss wrote:The key word here is monopoly.
There is a native run company, based in Winnipeg, funded by a number of bands, that provide supplies to Manitoba reserves. Oh, and VERY profitable. They even own part of an airline.

So there is some competition. There is nothing to prevent other bands from creating other cooperative ventures and competing.

This is what frustrates so many. People b1tch about the high costs but don't do anything about THEMSELVES. It has been proven it can be done. So do it!


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6 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:36 pm

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death128 wrote:Bastards should subsidize flights... They'd probably be able to get a charitable number for it...

But they won't...
I would like to spend my winters in Hawaii. Those same "bastards" should subsidize my flights...After all, I'm "trapped" in Winnipeg...


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7 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:38 pm

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hell, make a whole bunch of everything dehydrated.. freakin parachute it in and dont even worry about trucks.

super cheap


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8 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:48 pm

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Las Vegas subsidizes their flights even more than Hawaii. Bastards.

9 Re: on $20 milk on Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:50 pm

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Viva Las Vagaries......but gambling is a cultural imperative non?


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10 Re: on $20 milk on Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:53 pm

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$20 milk is a non-issue, as they don't drink milk on reserves anyhow!


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11 Re: on $20 milk on Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:29 am

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You're right. It's just dumb whities like me, teachers at the school and nurses at the station forking out the bux.

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12 Re: on $20 milk on Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:18 am

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its too bad that they dont invest in some sort of thing that MAKES milk for them.. I know I know crazy talk but if enough money was thrown at it I am sure scientist could invent one.


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13 Re: on $20 milk on Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:23 am

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Moooooooooooooooooo!


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14 Re: on $20 milk on Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:59 am

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Deank wrote:its too bad that they dont invest in some sort of thing that MAKES milk for them.. I know I know crazy talk but if enough money was thrown at it I am sure scientist could invent one.

Females? I think you need a rib first....

15 Re: on $20 milk on Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:04 pm

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Mmmmmmm, ribs.


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16 Re: on $20 milk on Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:25 am

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....just wondering.....

Why don't they have cows on some reserves? ....and greenhouses for that matter?

17 Re: on $20 milk on Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:11 am

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And contractors (electrical, plumbing, drywall...)? Auto garages and mechanics? Landscapers? Mould cleaner-uppers?


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18 Re: on $20 milk on Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:12 am

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Heh...you've got a point there. Smile

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