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Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful?

Judy Wasilee should open her drawers to the NDP Prov Govt expenses

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1 Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful? on Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:50 pm

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I joke about government spending as being 87% wasteful, but I think that is a fair evaluation.
I love the statement "I am from the government and I am here to help you!"
harpers $56 Billion Dollar Stimulous, forced on him by the Liberals and NDP, I think is a good example.
What benefit trickled down? No ons can ever say!
EHealth scandal a $1B waste: auditor
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/10/07/ehealth-auditor.html
A scathing report on the eHealth Ontario spending scandal charges that successive governments wasted $1 billion in taxpayer money.
to let spending go out of control with few safeguards to protect tax dollars.
favouritism was shown toward certain companies "without giving other firms a chance to compete were largely true."
Ensure procurement policies are followed.
Rules of engagement are simply not followed and allow all sorts of rip offs to follow.


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2 Re: Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful? on Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:31 pm

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rosencrentz wrote:I joke about government spending as being 87% wasteful, but I think that is a fair evaluation.
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EHealth scandal a $1B waste: auditor

Private companies can be just as wasteful, and more. Look at NorTel, Enron, WorldCom, etc. Or all of Wall Street.

American healthcare lobbyists love to talk about how innefficient government involvement is, while pointing fingers north of the border. But the fact is not only do Canadians pay 47% less for the same level of health care than Americans, they pay less TAXES for health care than Americans. (The big difference is that having paid those taxes, we then GET the health care without having to pay a second time out-of-pocket.)

Private-insurance administrative costs in the U.S. are 12.7 cents on the dollar, and as high as 18 cents for some companies. For government Medicare and Medicaid, administrative costs are less than half that - 5.8 cents on the dollar. In Canada administrative costs are 4.2 cents on the dollar.

The salaries at the top (of government) are tiny compared to those of large corporations. Or even compared to aboriginal reserves.

Yes, government has its fiascos. But when compared to private industry, it doesn't do too badly.

3 Re: Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful? on Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:47 pm

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I reckon it has more to do with the individual than where the person works.

For many, the temptation to steal is just too great and when given the opportunity, they do.

4 Re: Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful? on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:02 am

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People want either an end to corruption, or more chance to participate in it.

5 Re: Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful? on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:56 am

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RogerStrong- good numbers on health care , but not relevant because we do not have access to care when we need it . We have to wait 5 months for operations when they are needed today to eliminate pain!


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6 Re: Why Ae Government Operations So Wasteful? on Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:29 am

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rosencrentz wrote:RogerStrong- good numbers on health care , but not relevant because we do not have access to care when we need it . We have to wait 5 months for operations when they are needed today to eliminate pain!

Agreed.

I've spent some time debating Americans on the subject of wait lists.

When I needed sleep apnea testing, there was a two-year waiting list in Manitoba. So I went to a private clinic for testing, and another for treatment. (CPAP machine) My private insurance through work covered it, and it all took a couple weeks.

I compared notes with an American who had the same problem. His insurer made him wait longer for testing than the Canadian *public* system, longer than two years, insisting that he didn't need it. As it turned out (as his doctor and wife told him), he certainly did. THEN he was approved, and got his treatment right away.

On paper the American had his treatment right away, while I faced a two year wait. In reality I had my treatment right away, while the American faced the wait.

His private insurer was billed $7000 for the overnight resperation / blood oxygen test. Here in Manitoba, RANA Medical billed my private insurer $195 for the same test. (The Manitoba government was billed too, but only for the amount set by the government for that service.)

But the Canadian system is middle-of-the-road compared to others. Just because we to better than the Americans, doesn't mean we can't do better.

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