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Anyone on here ever Coach/Manage a provincial team in any sport?

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I may be coaching a provincial team this spring, I have not yet committed to it though. I was wondering what coaching a provincial team entails? ( Besides training and such)

Are there any costs picked up by the provincial sport body?

As a provincial team would I have a charitable licence so various fund-raisers and such could happen....


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Deank wrote:I may be coaching a provincial team this spring, I have not yet committed to it though. I was wondering what coaching a provincial team entails? ( Besides training and such)

Are there any costs picked up by the provincial sport body?

As a provincial team would I have a charitable licence so various fund-raisers and such could happen....

Coaching Manitoba might have some answers for you.


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looking for first hand experience from people Smile


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AA might be able to help.


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nope.. those were all US teams Smile


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Well...I can't say to coaching...other than I've asked a few questions to a few Provincial v-ball coaches that I've been reffing (a few of them are refs too)

In general..it's up to the club as to what gets covered.
Smaller clubs tend to not pick up as much, larger clubs can afford a bit more.

Either way, the biggest thing I'm told is that ALL receipts get submitted to the club (and those to Sport Manitoba), and whatever SM feels like paying, they pay.

Typically though...the only things covered are practice equipment (balls, pucks, etc.), extensive travel (ie. bus rates, plane rates), and accommodations (including some food).

It's something to ask before signing on...if you think it will be a hardship for you to assume those costs.

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Charitable license DeanK - won't be from the team, but I believe community centers would have them or if there is an organization Sport Manitoba?
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I assume that you're referring to a provincial "all star" team, rather than a club team that has won the provincial championship.

Check with the respective provincial sport association, as they govern the activities of provincial teams. They may provide funding and/or the opportunity for access to lottery funding through bingo's etc. When #2 son played for the provincial U16 football team, we had the opportunity to offset some of the registration costs by providing sponsors, selling raffle tickets etc, all of which was coordinated by Football Manitoba.

Other fundraising, depending on the nature, may or may not require licensing by the City or the province. Raffles, and the like are regulated by the Manitoba Gaming Control Commission, but licenses are not required unless the gross sales and prizes are above a certain threshhold. Socials and "Bud Spud and Steak" events can be very lucrative depending on your network for selling tickets and ability to get donated prizes for a silent auction.

But like I said, check with the provincial association first.

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yeah.. sitting down with them this weekend. Just looking for ball bark information.


is a $15Kish budget ( including travel, hotel, practices, jerseys, etc.) unreasonable?


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Sounds not bad.What sport? How many kids? Coaches? Where? Is this a club team going to nationals or a provincial team going to all stars?

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That would make a great budget for the next sandbox convention.


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15 to 22 kids
3 coaches
4 nights.
saskatoon

"Is this a club team going to nationals or a provincial team going to all stars?"

Not really sure what is meant by that. It will be select kids chosen from all sorts of teams to form the provincial team, Manitoba is considered a B class province so they can even take up to 5 kids that don't make other provinces teams. They will be going to Nationals.


Do many (if any) parents ever come along on something like this? Would 3 coaches be enough to chaperon that many kids? If not, would it be reasonable to assume that two teams would share a bus?


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I spent a week in Saskatoon one night.

I would call this a provincial all star team, as individual players are or have tried out for the team and have been selected based on their individual contribution.

Depending on the age of the kids, a 7:1 ratio may be a little lite for supervision. When we took a U14 boys team, we put an adult in each room, whereas its not necessary with older kids. I'm guessing that this is younger kids, so more chaperones will require less medication. The use of chaperones instead of coaches is something that our club is getting into. Thats based on the theory that coaches are there to coach, not just "babysit' kids for the weekend.

Renting a bus is the way to go, and we've actually sold extra seats to parents who want to go to offset costs. If you have your choice of hotel, check out those with breakfast thrown in. Its usually just fruit, cereal, muffins, etc, but thats plenty. Even try to negotiate a meal price for the kids, as that can save a lot of hassle.

Be sure that it is clearly understood what is expected of the players and any parents who may attend on their own dime. While its great to have the support, it can get overwhelming if parents take their kids away from team activities.

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thanks!

the tournie is not demanding people use their hotels but at the rate is pretty reasonable

" While its great to have the support, it can get overwhelming if parents take their kids away from team activities."

yeah having taken "fun" teams to out of town tournies where it was even just a one day thing that is a hard learned lesson.


one adult per room sound like a plan.. those parents pay for their own share?


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ooo question re the bus..

They do the driving even at the location right? ie to and from the sporting venue and hotel and any team event we want to do?


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budget per day per kid for food? (assuming breakfast is included)


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Deank wrote:ooo question re the bus..

They do the driving even at the location right? ie to and from the sporting venue and hotel and any team event we want to do?

now THIS one i can answer (was in the business)

Don't think of the bus as a "taxi".

They take you to the hotel, and will take you to a venue or two...but only as a single group...not running back and forth like a transit bus.

Anyone misses the bus, will have to fend for themselves.

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Deank

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so to and from the sports venue is covered.
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Deank wrote:budget per day per kid for food? (assuming breakfast is included)

you eat at mcd's Smile you should know this Smile

generally, about $10/player for lunch and $15/dinner

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LOL

thanks!


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