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26 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Tue May 03, 2011 4:50 pm

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The Canadian dollar is stonger and stronger, and a Conservative government will only make it stronger, thereby weakening our exporting manufacturers if there are any left, except the tar sands and the marihuana growers.

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27 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 12:45 pm

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JT Estoban wrote:It's been a target for a very long time. I see no reason why the new government wouldn't use the opportunity.

My dept. works with the board.
I'm not taking a position one way or the other. Agreed, let the farmers decide. But yeah, I'm very happy that I don't work @ the board that's for sure!
Looks like ths slashing is about to begin, not necessary a decision by farmers but by government:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/wheat-board-faces-extinction-121234974.html

28 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 1:18 pm

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ritz, and before him chuck stahl, are complete morons. As are the conservatives in this matter. I don't get the government's burning desire to kill this organization. Just let the people it immediately serves make the decision. The farmers.


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29 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 1:28 pm

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They dont actually want to kill it.

They just want farmers to have the right to choose to use it or to market their own products.

Just like potato farmers here in Manitoba wish they could market they potatoes directly instead of having to go through peak of the market

some people like it.. some dont.


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30 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 1:32 pm

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No dean, ritz wants to kill it. Make it completely go away. The arrogant minister even said no more plebiscites since the election stands as the definitive plebiscite.

To that I say bullsh1t. I don't recall once hearing the conservatives intent to make this an election issue. If the farmers want to keep the CWB then ritz and his arrogant icewhole bureaucrats need to back the frick off.


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31 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 2:29 pm

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He does not have the authority to kill it. A judge will let him know that.


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32 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 2:36 pm

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rereading it. he does not want CWB killed he wants


"He made it clear the majority Conservative government will move to eliminate the single-desk marketing function of the CWB."

ie.. monopoly killed

CWB can still exist... but farmers wont be required to market grain through them.


95% of the farmers will realize that they are indeed better off with the CWB. but should that 95% of the farmers force the other 5% to be worse off?

nope.

should that 95% be able to tell farmers that they cant start their own organic flour mill?

nope.


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33 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 2:44 pm

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"eliminate the single-desk marketing function of the CWB" will in fact kill it. Anf judges have told them already they don't have the authority other than to follow the charter.

Not sure where the 95% numbers come from but they've voted (plebiscites) on this since the conservatives first announced their intent to kill it. The majority has won each time to save it. This despite some serious dirty tricks by the conservatives.


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34 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 2:49 pm

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See but it dont matter if its 99% or 60% if even one single farmer wants the right to sell his wheat to whoever he wants.. why should he not have that right?

Keep in mind this one thing. Wheat growers in Ontario are NOT subject to the CWB.

And no... it wont kill it. MOST farmers see its value and want to keep it. Its only the few that live within 50-60kmish of the border and run very large farms who dont see a value in it.

so the other farmers will simply be required to sign contracts agreeing to sell all their grain to the CWB and TADA... it continues on.


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35 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 3:03 pm

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Here's a good summation of the current situation:


"We have seen wheat, barley and durum acres shrinking in Western Canada and gaining in Australia where they deregulated three years ago," Ritz said. "Farmers have voted with their air seeders and planters by putting in canola and pulses and corn and other non-CWB crops. We know changes need to be made and farmers need to be able to make that choice based on a strong business plan, not on a piece of legislation that is antiquated."

36 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 3:04 pm

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Didn't the Freep article say a past farmers poll/vote was 67% to end it?

37 Re: The Results are in. Now what? on Wed May 04, 2011 3:13 pm

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Heh...there are probably more employees that wish to keep it than farmers.

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