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1 Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:28 am

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a little old russian scientist told me that the stadium construction is delayed because of weather?? Anyone have an article to read about this?


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2 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:31 am

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CTV did a short story on it last night, Bombers first few games will be on the road

3 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:32 am

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How does the stadium get behind on construction when it has been perfect weather since June 2011 for construction?


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4 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:46 am

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They said the slow down is installing the canopy (roof) They require two cranes to do it and it has been far too windy

I drive past the site at least once a week, its quite something to see, I have wondered if they can finish in 5 months

5 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:48 am

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umm.. so...do everything else and come back to the roof is not an option somehow?

(who would have thought that WINNIPEG the WINDY city of the north would have problems with wind?)


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6 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:49 am

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I think almost everyone has expressed some skepticism about that stadium being ready for the start of the season. The Bombers should have fessed up sooner.

I don't buy the "too windy" argument. Weather in Winnipeg this year has been almost perfect for construction.


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7 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:04 pm

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Deank wrote:umm.. so...do everything else and come back to the roof is not an option somehow?

(who would have thought that WINNIPEG the WINDY city of the north would have problems with wind?)

I agree with you, however I am just stating what CTV said last night

and like GOM said, why not come out and just state the facts.

I also believe the stadium will be over budget, and I would suspect that the Bomber loan will be forgiven within 2 years

8 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:10 pm

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" will be forgiven within 2 years"

nah.. City of Winnipeg is on hook for it... oh wait sorry I mean the "taxes" from the "new development at old site" will pay the loan off.

ITS FREE MONEY!!!!


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9 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:17 pm

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Deank wrote:" will be forgiven within 2 years"

nah.. City of Winnipeg is on hook for it... oh wait sorry I mean the "taxes" from the "new development at old site" will pay the loan off.

ITS FREE MONEY!!!!

I don't think the city is on the hook for it?? I thought the province was "loaning" the money? Ahh I can't remember anymore, anyway I don't see the Bombers ever paying the full thing off (just my opinion)

10 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:23 pm

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province is giving a bridge loan... the football club is on the hook for it.. but for some reason if they cant make the payments (you know..something like.. they would need another 5 million per year PROFIT OVER what they are making now) then the taxes from the old area will pay for it.

ie.. the taxes from the old area will pay for it.


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11 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:25 pm

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Deank wrote:province is giving a bridge loan... the football club is on the hook for it.. but for some reason if they cant make the payments (you know..something like.. they would need another 5 million per year PROFIT OVER what they are making now) then the taxes from the old area will pay for it.

ie.. the taxes from the old area will pay for it.

Ahh ok, I got it. Well those taxes will never cover it!

12 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:07 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:I think almost everyone has expressed some skepticism about that stadium being ready for the start of the season. The Bombers should have fessed up sooner.

Agreed.

Just looking at what's changed from each visit I've made to the area (once or twice a month) and it appears the stadium won't be completed on time. (just my observation)

As I've explained to others, I don't expect the entire stadium to be ready on time. Yes, it will have seats, and a field, the players will have their dressing rooms, and the media and corporate sponsors et al will have their luxury boxes.

Just don't expect a roof, or more than a toilet or two per section, and concessions, score clock, you know the expensive stuff to be ready on time.

That's my cynicism kicking in....(based largely on the history of the project, as well as the CMHR begging model)...prove me wrong Bumblers!


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13 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:47 pm

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JT Estoban wrote:Just don't expect a roof, or more than a toilet or two per section, and concessions, score clock, you know the expensive stuff to be ready on time.

Last time I checked, they were not building roof. Have you heard something new?


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14 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:00 pm

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There is a roof.


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15 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:17 pm

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No, a roof is a roof. What kind of a roof? It's a roof. A roof is a roof, and when you have a good roof, it's because it's roven." -
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16 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:45 pm

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17 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:15 pm

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Triniman wrote:
Last time I checked, they were not building roof. Have you heard something new?

I use the term "roof" loosely...


..as loosely as the Asper clan uses the term "cost overrun"


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18 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:34 pm

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They're umbrellas!! Shocked

We're gonna' have an umbrella'd stadium.

19 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:46 pm

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to be fair.. they are more like caps on a baseball cap.. and will protect the average person about as much


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20 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:52 pm

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What American small town just south of Winnipeg has a covered "roof" 15,000 seats? and it is rented out about 220 times per year?

We will have an open stadium that will be rented out 20 times per year1

It is way cheaper to have an empty stadium for 200 extra days, that is Winnipeg.

Anyone know who rents the 15,000 seat covered stadium for those extra 200 days, and at what cost, revenue? Who owns the stadium? What did it cost, in what year?


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21 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:53 pm

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I think the Fargodome seats 20k. Different construction needs come into play for enclosed football stadiums seating 33k.


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22 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:54 pm

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Deank wrote:to be fair.. they are more like caps on a baseball cap.. and will protect the average person about as much
They've said that roof will keep the rain off of 80% of the seats.


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23 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:56 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:
Deank wrote:to be fair.. they are more like caps on a baseball cap.. and will protect the average person about as much
They've said that roof will keep the rain off of 80% of the seats.

rain hardly ever falls straight down


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24 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:01 pm

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It does fall down though... It hardly ever falls sideways.


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25 Re: Stadium delayed because of weather??? on Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:06 pm

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umm.. the reason the stadium is delayed is because of wind...wind usually does blow it sideways. and as I found working at Portage and Main in trizec building. Wind often makes it rain upwards in Winnipeg as well.


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