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151 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:15 pm

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And who hired Mike Kelly?

While we're at it, who hired Doug Berry, Brendan Taman, Jim Daley, and Dave Ritchie? How many eggs does Bauer have to burn before the teflon wears off?

152 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:25 pm

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Good point. Plus he wears that stupid beard.


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153 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:42 am

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You're right....there does seem to be a lot of crap coming out of that office.

I've always had the feeling that a lot more transparency is needed in the front office, including the Board's play.

154 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:50 am

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I think it's time that the upper management of the team was relieved of their duties. That includes Bauer. He's the one who's hired that last several failures, it's time he did the honorable thing and dump Kelley before stepping down himself.

(yeah, like that's going to happen)

Instead, we're going to have another season of Reinbold....err....Kelley shooting his cocky mouth off about the fans not making the crappy team he built, play better....Frick you Kelly!


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155 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:31 pm

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JT Estoban wrote:I think it's time that the upper management of the team was relieved of their duties. That includes Bauer. !

s you support David Aspers ownership bid then?


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156 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:57 pm

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Deank wrote:
JT Estoban wrote:I think it's time that the upper management of the team was relieved of their duties. That includes Bauer. !

s you support David Aspers ownership bid then?
This doesn't make sense to me....I've always believed that Bowser was a lap dog for Asker, so if Asker gets the team, Bowser will have a home for a time to come.

157 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:03 pm

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I really dont think a time to come is the right statement. 1 year after ownership, perhaps two at most. Then when the economic model is tanking Asker will use him as blame for "too much thinking like the old ways"


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158 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:15 pm

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No, I'm not really in favor of Asker's ownership bid. I like the idea of a new stadium, but completely surrendering the entire team to Asker is not a fair trade IMHO. I would have preferred instead, that Asker become majority owner, or something to the affect. As well, any sale of majority ownership to a private investor should include a clause along the lines of; should Asker decide that he's tired of playing with this toy, it's ownership would revert back to the public ownership as it is now, and the new Stadium (paid for with a mix of private and public dollars) would remain publicly owned as well. Pie in the sky indeed... Surprised

Bauer has been in charge of day to day operations for the team for quite a while, over 10 years...no? IMO, he bears "some" responsibility for the failures up to this point.

Simply put, IMO I think it's time this team's management had a whole house cleaning from top to bottom, starting with Bauer.

But that's just me, a loser Bumbler fan who gives a damn about how his team plays.
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159 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:17 pm

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JT Estoban wrote:As well, any sale of majority ownership to a private investor should include a clause along the lines of; should Asker decide that he's tired of playing with this toy, it's ownership would revert back to the public ownership as it is now...
That is precisely how the deal is structured. Not sure about the stadium. Do understand though that Asper is putting in almost all the money for the stadium.


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160 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:22 pm

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Don't forget the land that he's getting at Polo Park....afterall, isn't that what's it's all about? sarcasm end

161 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:34 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:
JT Estoban wrote:As well, any sale of majority ownership to a private investor should include a clause along the lines of; should Asker decide that he's tired of playing with this toy, it's ownership would revert back to the public ownership as it is now...
That is precisely how the deal is structured. Not sure about the stadium. Do understand though that Asper is putting in almost all the money for the stadium.

I am happy to hear that. I like to keep in the loop on these things, but I hadn't heard much about the deal other than the new site would be @ the UofM, Asker gets the whole team as a toy, he gets the Polo site lock, stock and all, and all he has to do is pony up most of the cash (finally) instead of this being a mostly taxpayer funded endeavor.


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162 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:51 pm

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JTF wrote:Don't forget the land that he's getting at Polo Park....afterall, isn't that what's it's all about? sarcasm end
Is he getting it for free?


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163 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:09 pm

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It's part of the package. Asker has always maintained that that land is the only thing that makes this feasible. It's always been about the fcuken land.

Just a short time before this all started, the club said everything was peachy-keen, then suddenly it's not. Gimme a break here!!!

164 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:19 pm

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Is he getting it for free?


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165 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:28 pm

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Nope

166 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:15 pm

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depends what you call free

he is getting it for "at market value" but without a bidding war of any kind at all. So I would say he is saving a million or so on the deal.


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167 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:15 pm

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oh and yes at one point he was getting it for free.


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168 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:01 pm

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Deank wrote:depends what you call free

he is getting it for "at market value" but without a bidding war of any kind at all. So I would say he is saving a million or so on the deal.
I'll say he is paying one million more than market value.

Deank wrote:oh and yes at one point he was getting it for free.
And at one point I was going to retire at 55.


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169 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:05 pm

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I'll say he is paying one million more than market value.


very very doubtful.

it was only after public outrage that the "market value" name was used


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170 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:38 pm

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No, I meant two million more...

What a stupid game eh? Let's pick a number out of our ass and post it here like it has any validity at all. Pointless debate IMO...


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171 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:16 pm

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Yes as we will probaly not hear the true fiqure.

172 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:33 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:No, I meant two million more...

What a stupid game eh? Let's pick a number out of our ass and post it here like it has any validity at all. Pointless debate IMO...

not really a stupid game at all

REAL market value is what the end bid is. NOT what an evaluator says it is worth.

Put that land out to market. Asper can have it for whatever the highest bid is.


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173 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:47 pm

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I imagine I have an equally good grip upon what market value is Deank. Thanks for the education anyway.

The game I refer to is the arbitrary $1 million discount you gave it...


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174 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:48 pm

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Lately everything the Aspers touch get ruined, it seems. If only Izzy were alive....

175 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:05 am

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Funny Creswin is doing not bad , depends which Asper you speak of .

176 Re: 2009 Blue Bombers on Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:23 am

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grumpy old man wrote:

What a stupid game eh? Let's pick a number out of our ass and post it here like it has any validity at all. Pointless debate IMO...

Sounds like Gailey Asker and the Museum of Doom Deal.

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