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1 Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:45 am

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Anybody know of a good plumber or pipefitter to repair a lead water pipe. I really don't want to replace the entire incoming water line but would rather just repair the leak...it's above the florr line and before the meter.

If it was anything but that old pipe I'd do it myself....

Thanks in advance.

2 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:46 am

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P.S. I used to deal with Parson's but after the last incident...I wouldn't use them if they were free.

3 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:13 am

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Try some Mighty Putty!

4 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:18 am

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Heh heh...already did. I figured, it being a weekend, and the water leaking before the meter, I'd try it as a stop-gap measure....didn't work...not even close...

5 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:22 am

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If the leak is before the meter, is it the city's responsibility?

6 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:25 am

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nope

everything from the road to your house is your responsibility.

even when the city does something dumbass like plant tress who's roots are almost guarenteed to wreck the water line.


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7 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:28 am

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sorry property line for incoming water... main line (ie street) for outgoing


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8 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:28 am

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9 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:30 am

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If there is a leak in your water pipe:
You are responsible for:

  • arranging for a water contractor licensed by us to make any necessary repairs
  • paying for the repairs

If your water pipe is lead, we recommend that you replace the pipe rather than repair the leak. If you replace your pipe, contact us and shortly after, we will replace the lead pipe on the City's portion of the water service (from the shut-off valve to the water main) as part of our lead control program.
When hiring a licensed water contractor, we recommend that you:

  • get at least three estimates
  • ask for and check contractor references
  • call the Better Business Bureau for a reliability report on contractors

Your contractor will be responsible for:

  • obtaining the necessary permits
  • getting clearances from utility companies (e.g., Manitoba Hydro)
  • repairing the leak
  • arranging for us to inspect the repair and turn the water back on


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10 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:30 am

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We are responsible for:

We may have to turn off the water if the leak becomes a risk to:

  • the water supply system
  • public safety
  • private or public property


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11 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:32 am

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note the "licensed by us" stuff...


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12 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:32 pm

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As I understand it thus far, the city will come and shut the water off and then turn it back on 4 hours later or when asked. That's it. They don't care about much else I have been told.

13 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:35 pm

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yeah... when I talked to them once, they said.. hell you could do it if you wanted to.....no idea why the website says otherwise.


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14 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:40 pm

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They want to make sure you do it correctly and according to code(s) I guess....but don't really want all the Inspectors tied up checking little soldering joints all day.

15 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:40 pm

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Technically, the homeowner can do whatever they want...on their own.

They cannot hire someone to do it for them who is not licensed.

But, if the homeowner screws it up...they have to pay to fix it and can be fined.

Just out of curiosity...are you sure it's lead and not cast iron?

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16 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:46 pm

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Yup. It's the old stuff dating back to 1907.

There was a pin-hole leak to start...after I tried to put some of that putty on it I moved the pipe slightly and made the hole bigger. It's way too maleable for cast iron I figure.

17 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:47 pm

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Here is my blog on this from a couple years ago...

http://winnipeg-blog.blogspot.com/2007/06/disturbing-awareness.html


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18 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:05 pm

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Please don't get me started on the city's priorities....Smile

19 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:50 pm

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Deank wrote:sorry property line for incoming water... main line (ie street) for outgoing


So if I felt like being an ass, I could rip out 3/4 of the cities side walk cause its on my property? my water shut off is 3/4 of the way across the side walk. lol hehe

20 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:24 pm

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Is the valve necessarily the property line?

21 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:27 pm

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My understanding is 3' of YOUR property line is actually city property.


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22 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:34 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:My understanding is 3' of YOUR property line is actually city property.

so 3' of your property is your property? lol that sounds like something that the city would do.

23 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:02 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:My understanding is 3' of YOUR property line is actually city property.
I've never heard of such a thing and very much doubt it's correct.

What you may have heard of is that sidewalks are built a foot away from the property line, and people sometimes think their property goes right up to the sidewalk. (Did I say that right?)

24 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:53 pm

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Now that I think of it it is in Toronto. If you drive by homes in TO you'll see most fences are built into the yard (1' or 3', I don't recall) as to build them closer you're building on city property and that is verboten.

My memory is not what it used to be.


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25 Re: Plumber / Pipefitter needed on Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:04 pm

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no...most fences are 1' - 3' back so that when the plows come through, they don't knock your fence down.
and so when you open your car door parked by the curb, you don't hit the fence.

Technically, the city owns easement rights below and above all of your property in Winnipeg.
They also own easement rights on the first 10' from any public access roadway (ie. backlane/street)
Which is why they can come chop down the tree next to the street, but not the one in the middle of your yard.

For IG Guy...no...you can't rip up the sidewalk, but if you can tip it up without breaking it...that's legal. The sidewalk is city property...the land underneath is not.

I don't know if we have any real estate agents in our forum...but they should know for sure the measurements and details...it's part of the course.

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